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DOUBLE PHOTO SHOOT

November 11th, 2005. I met with Kitty Ussher M.P. for a newspaper photo opportunity and live local radio interview. One of the people who had hoped to be there was PC Andy Duncan from the Lancashire Constabulary Motorway Patrol Unit at Preston. Unfortunately he phoned just before the shoot was due to begin to say he had been called away to an RTA, but offered to reschedule. So, I took him at his word and rearranged for Wednesday November 23rd. Along with my friend, and Learn-2-Live webmaster, we were shown around the unit and some of the patrol vehicles (just off M6 J31), and told of the various aspects of the work of the Motorway Unit. All in all, a very interesting and informative afternoon.

Anne at the Samlesbury Police Unit
 

WINTER DRIVING: CAN YOU COPE?

November 11th, 2005. It almost seems to be the norm, except if we are personally involved in one of these incidents.
For many new drivers who have possibly taken their training and passed their test during the spring/summer period, the thought of driving on the motorway in this sort of weather is a terrifying prospect. For a vast number of new drivers, motorway driving for the first time without any training is a frightening prospect. Their experience is, by definition, limited, and they have no idea of how to cope with ‘bad weather’ driving. So how would they cope with this scene...?

Traffic jam in the snow
Every year about this time we are advised by many of the road safety groups to make sure our cars are capable of coping with the inclement weather to come… but what about us, the drivers, are we able to cope? In fact even many of the more experienced drivers are unable to cope with the sort of weather pictured above. This is a typical scene which many of us may meet at sometime during the winter period. Yet every year without exception we hear of incidents that make our blood turn cold. Stories of bad, mad & sometimes downright dangerous driving in these weather conditions. Many drivers are seen taking chances, including speeding, overtaking etc… which under these conditions is nothing short of sheer lunacy. Then, when an incident happens the age-old questions is asked, and note, I refuse to call them accidents as this gives the impression that it is something that could not be avoided, the following is the outcry, “Why won’t they learn?”.

Well, at Learn-2-Live we believe the answer to be very simply “because they don’t have to”. It is commonly acknowledged by most road safety groups and the majority of the general public that the standard of driving on these roads is atrocious. However the powers that be in Westminster still allow around 95% of new drivers on these roads without any training.

Learn-2-Live is trying to change legislation to require all new drivers to undergo some form of recognised motorway tuition after they have passed their driving test. Over the next few weeks Kitty Ussher, my MP, is to raise an Early Day Motion on the issue of motorway tuition for new drivers. I would encourage all who read this article to contact your MP and urge them to sign this motion supporting my campaign.
 

Motorway Driving Tests

December 9th,2004. Recently Peter Pike MP asked the Transport Minister, David Jamieson, the following parliamentary question...

Mr. Pike: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport if he will introduce a requirement for learner drivers prior to taking their driving tests, to take theoretical instruction on driving on motorways, dependent on the area in which the driving test is to be taken. [204181]

Mr. Jamieson: There is no evidence to suggest that newly qualified drivers are generally more dangerous than other drivers on motorways. We therefore have no plans at present to lift the current restriction on learner drivers using motorways. However, the theory test, including the hazard perception test, covers driving on motorways and other high speed roads, so learners are expected to acquire the appropriate theoretical knowledge. The Highway Code and the Driving Standards Agency's Driving Manual provide theoretical instruction to support this. Learner drivers are also expected to gain experience on high-speed roads other than motorways before attempting the practical test and are expected to demonstrate their skills on such roads where practicable. Newly qualified drivers may also take the Pass Plus course of training which includes motorway driving with an Approved Driving Instructor. The scheme is taken up by some 20 per cent of pupils who pass their test.

Not unexpectedly, at Learn-2-Live we disagree with the Ministers' view. Read our reply
 

Official Patronage

November 27th,2004.  Learn-2-Live proudly announces the support of our Patron.
 

L2L Meets M.P.

October 29th,2004. Learn-2-Live today received 100% backing from Gwyneth Dunwoody MP, Chairperson of the HoC Transport Select Committee. During our meeting, at Mrs.Dunwoodys constituency office, she offered support and guidance with a view to taking this campaign forward. It is both gratifying and reassuring to know that someone in such an influential position is behind my aim.
 

Car-jacking warning

July 13th,2004. Imagine you walk across the car park, unlock your car and get inside. Then you lock all your doors, start the engine and shift into reverse. You look into the rear view mirror to back out of your parking space and you notice a piece of paper stuck to the middle of the rear window. So, you unlock your doors and jump out to remove the paper (or whatever it is) that is obstructing your view. As you reach the back of your car, the car-jackers suddenly appear, jump into your car and take off.

The engine would be running (ladies would have their handbag in the car) and they practically mow you down as they speed off in your car.

Advice must be to just drive away and remove the paper later, and be thankful you read this notice. Please inform all friends and family, especially women. A handbag contains identification and you certainly do not want thieves knowing your home address, as they already have your keys!
 

DFT update

April 7th,2004. The DfT published its decision letter on the subject of a more structured approach to learning to drive. Read it here
 

EU licences information

February 11th,2004. EU Driving Licences. As part of standardisation proposals, the DfT are consulting on EU changes to driving licences, which will affect UK drivers. All submissions were due in by April 9th. View the document at the DfT website.
 

Mobiles and driving

December 1st, 2003. It is now illegal to use a hand-held mobile phone while driving. Offenders risk a £30 fixed penalty fine or up to £1000 fine (£2,500 for drivers of goods vehicles, buses or coaches) if convicted in court. It has been proposed that these penalties be increased. Despite this, many drivers still seem to be ignoring the law.  Frequently Asked Questions and a Flowchart are available.
 

Mechanical / Safety Checks

Sept. 2003. These are to be introduced into tests. Information about the format is in the Jan.'03 edition of MSA Newslink and will doubtless be publicised in other instructor magazines soon.
 

Pupil Record Sheets

January 1st,2003. These new format records have now been issued by DSA, this time they consist of a single sheet for the pupil to retain and multiple sheets for the instructor to keep. Whether they will prove any more popular than the previous format is yet to be seen, but most instructors already keep their own records and the new DSA type may or may not be better. ADI's:- Don't forget to let the DSA know how you feel about them. Particularly the requirement to sign that a "pupil is ready for test". Have you had a legal opinion as to whether that could be used against you in a court of law?
 

A More Structured Approach to Learning

March 1st,2002. The DTLR published its consultation paper on the subject of learning to drive. You may read the whole document here. Once you've digested its content, please let us have your views.

We responded to the DTLR paper. Read our reply
 

DSA do U-turn

November 24th,2001. Over the past 10 years Learn-2-Live has campaigned for all new drivers to have to undergo some form of motorway tuition. The DTLR and DSA have always contended that motorway driving can be learned on a dual carriageway though I have done everything in my power to convince them this is not possible, and now I firmly believe I have convinced them. On Wednesday 21st Nov. I was invited to attend the launch of Lancashire Country Council's "Partnership for Road Safety" scheme. During the registration period and later coffee break, I spoke at length to Gary Austin, Chief Executive of the DSA. Firstly I asked him to confirm or deny the rumours that had been circulating as to whether their Pass Plus scheme could soon be scrapped. Mr.Austin made it very clear that the DSA had no immediate plans to scrap Pass Plus. Secondly I brought to his attention the main issue with which Learn-2-Live has been concerned over the last 10 years, that is the fact that, as the law stands, new drivers don't have to undergo any post test motorway tuition. I informed him that when I first approached the DSA back in 1991 I was told their view was that motorway driving can be learned on dual carriageways and asked if that was that still their view? He told me that he agreed with the principal of all new drivers undergoing some form of motorway tuition. Although the DSA is a government agency, and these measures still have to go through parliament, I see that getting this sort of comment from their Chief Executive is a major breakthrough in my campaign.
 

TV Appearance

July 2001. Back in February of this year I was contacted by Carlton TV. They were putting together a new series of their programme "Motorway" and had found our web site. When I told them how and why Learn-2-Live started they invited me, and my former ADI (now our webmaster), to take part in this series. Filming was arranged for 26th March and we met up with the film crew at Charnock Richard services on the M6. Don't let anyone tell you filming is simple or glamorous. We spent quite a bit of the time simply standing around shivering, between 'shoots'. The first episode of "Motorway" was shown on 15th May and we were eventually told that our contribution would be in part 8, to be screened on 3rd July. Because this programme was only televised in the Carlton Central area, it wasn't until we received copies of the video that we had any idea of what was actually broadcast. Despite the fact that our edited contribution only lasted about 65 seconds, it did show the message we are trying to get across, which is a need for post-test motorway tuition. If you missed that programme (repeated since on Bravo), our contribution is available here.
 

CRACKDOWN ON SERIOUS OFFENCES

January 22nd,2001. On 19th December 2000 the Home Office released a consultation paper concerning the government's proposed crackdown on serious motoring crimes. The replies were to be received by 9th March 2001. Learn-2-Live replied to this paper and my comments are here for you to see. (our comments are in italics.)
A full copy of this consultation paper can be found on the Home Office web site or from:- Sentencing and Offences Unit, Home Office, 50 Queen Anne's Gate, London SW1H 9AT. Fax 020 7273 4345 or  by email

Summary of proposals...
1. Revaluation of points. To provide greater flexibility to the courts in awarding points related to the seriousness of the offence and also for purposes connected with a new structure of fixed penalty speeding offences, penalty points and endorsements on licences should be revalued.
If the revaluation of points in itself does not have any effect on the workload of the Criminal Justice system, why change them?
2. Retraining. Those receiving an endorsement of penalty points which take their points total up to and beyond 10 points should ideally be offered automatically the opportunity to attend, at their own expense, a driver retraining and improvement programme. Successful completion of the course would earn remission of 5 points. Those disqualified for a period of over 56 days up to and including 12 months should automatically be offered the same with a remissions of 20% of the period of disqualification.
a) Driver improvement schemes are a good idea and are in place by the vast majority of areas already. b) Learn-2-Live believes that if learner drivers were compelled to undergo more rigorous and extensive training in the first place, drivers might have a different attitude to driving. c) If someone undergoes a driver improvement course when disqualified from driving, would they undergo the improvement course and then be banned? I feel that would undo the object of the exercise.
3. Totting up disqualification as fixed penalty. Offenders can choose to accept a fixed penalty even where to do so would bring their penalty points up to or beyond totting up level. In that event the offender would automatically be awarded, in addition to the fixed penalty, a six month disqualification.
Learn-2-Live has no objections to these measures.
4. Long-life points. For a period of three years after resuming driving following disqualification for more than 56 days, any fresh penalty points or endorsements awarded as a result of further offences or fixed penalties would remain on the licence for six years, not three.
Learn-2-Live has no objections to these measures.
5. Requalifying after disqualification. A driver sentenced to disqualification for a substantial period of time should be required as an automatic consequence of not being allowed to drive for such a period to requalify (As to the appropriate period of disqualification- see below).
Learn-2-Live has no objections to these measures.
6. Decoupled community penalties. Community sentences such as community service orders, involving service particularly relevant to driving and road safety, could be made available for some offences for which imprisonment is not available.
Although Learn-2-Live has no basic objections to these measures we would be interested to know what form of community service relevant to driving and road safety the Home Office had in mind?
7. Forfeiture of vehicles. Procedures for permanent forfeiture of vehicles should no longer involve the police, and should be contracted out to vehicle removal companies- a new penalty (temporary forfeiture) should be made available to the courts for certain offences.
Learn-2-Live has no objections to these measures.
8. Causing death by dangerous driving.
9. Causing death by careless driving while under the influence of drink or drugs.
10. Causing death by aggravated vehicle taking.
(8-10 are virtually word for word so I've linked them together). Disqualification to be for a minimum of three years (or possibly for life). Disqualification to be for life (possibly reviewed after a substantial period of time, 10 years for example) where the defendant had previously committed an offence of dangerous driving, or causing death by dangerous driving, or causing death by aggravated vehicle taking, or causing death by careless driving while under the influence of drink or drugs. Permanent or temporary forfeiture of the vehicle would be available.
Learn-2-Live has always held the view that drivers have to be responsible for their actions behind the wheel. If a driver drinks and then drives resulting in loss of life or serious injury to others they have proved beyond all reasonable doubt that they are unfit to hold a licence and should therefore be banned from driving for the rest of their natural life.

11. Dangerous driving and aggravated vehicle taking. Maximum term of imprisonment increased to five years for both these offence. Disqualification to be for a minimum of three years. Disqualification to be for life (possibly reviewed after a substantial period of time (10 years for example) where the defendant had previously committed an offence of dangerous driving or causing death by dangerous driving, or causing death by aggravated vehicle taking or causing death by careless driving while under the influence of drink or drugs. Permanent or temporary forfeiture of the vehicle would be available.
Learn-2-Live has always held the view that drivers have to be responsible for their actions behind the wheel. If a driver drinks and then drives resulting in loss of life or serious injury to others they have proved beyond all reasonable doubt that they are unfit to hold a licence and should therefore be banned from driving for the rest of their natural life.
12. A new penalty for a higher level of alcohol. The maximum penalty for the new "higher level of alcohol" offence would be the same as for the basic offence. But the minimum period of disqualification applying to the "drive or attempt to drive" offence would be longer than the basic offence. We invite views on the appropriate period of disqualification. Disqualification would remain at the discretion of the court for the "in charge" offence and the minimum of 12 months would continue to apply for driving or attempting to drive whilst unfit. Permanent or temporary forfeiture of the vehicle would also be available. Offenders convicted of the new offence would always be required to undertake an extended retest before regaining their licence.
a) Drinking and driving is now considered, by many as socially unacceptable yet there is a "hard core" of drivers who still feel they are above the law. b) To deter these drivers these drivers the minimum penalty should be at least doubled . Learn-2-Live would like to see this increased to a minimum of 5 years. c) Learn-2-Live believes that every driver who has been banned from driving for whatever reason should have to re-sit their driving test in order to regain their licence.
13. Repeat drink-drive offending. For any second drink-drive offence within 10 years, disqualification, where applicable, should at least remain at the current minimum period of three years but could be increased. We invite views on this issue. The second drink-drive offence within 10 years would also result in a requirement to undertake an extended retest. We propose that two convictions of drink-drive offences within 10 years, in which one or both of the offences is a higher level offence or failing to provide a specimen where disqualification is obligatory should attract a minimum period of disqualification in excess of that applying to repeat commission of basic offences (currently three years).
Repeat offences of proposal 12 should carry a minimum 10 year ban and subsequent offences should carry a life long ban from driving.
14. Driving while disqualified. A wider range of community penalties to be available in addition to the existing option of six months imprisonment. Permanent or temporary forfeiture of the vehicle. A minimum two-year disqualification for a second offence within 10 years (which would always trigger a retest requirement).
Learn-2-Live has no objections to these measures. (see proposal 6).
15. Driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence, or causing or permitting a person to drive otherwise than in accordance with a licence. In addition to existing penalties "decoupled" community penalties, and to be available where disqualification is available, and permanent or temporary forfeiture of the vehicle, should be available to the courts.
Learn-2-Live has no objections to these measures.
16. Driving while uninsured. In addition to existing penalties "decoupled" community penalties, and permanent or temporary forfeiture of the vehicle, should be available to the courts.
Learn-2-Live has no objections to these measures.
17. Careless or inconsiderate driving. Available sentences to include requirement to undergo a driver retraining and improvement programme. "Decoupled" community penalties and a fine at level 5 in place of level 4. A mandatory minimum of 15 points for a second offence of careless driving within 5 years, or for a first offence of careless driving if within the preceding 5 years, the driver had committed any of the more serious categories of offence. A minimum period of disqualification of whatever length necessary to require an automatic retest for a third or subsequent offence of careless driving within five years.
Learn-2-Live has no objections to these measures.
18. Speeding offences. A new fixed penalty system for speeding offences should provide for two levels of fixed penalty, with a higher level of points awarded to those exceeding the limit by a wide margin so as to increase the risk to them of losing their licence through totting up.
Learn-2-Live has no objections to these measures.
19. Fraud with parking tickets, deception with licences, MOT certificates, etc and fraudulent use of documentation. Imprisonment of up to six months should be made available to the magistrates courts for these offences.
Learn-2-Live has no objections to these measures.
20. Using vehicles in a dangerous or overloaded condition. "Decoupled" community penalties should be available to enable the courts to deal effectively with particularly serious examples of these offences. Disqualification should be mandatory for second or subsequent offences in this category within three years; and temporary forfeiture should be available.
Learn-2-Live has no objections to these measures.
21. Bus lanes. Local authorities should be enabled to enforce bus lanes as well as the police, by the use of camera. Local authorities should be empowered to deal with offenders by a fixed penalty notice.
Learn-2-Live has no objections to these measures.
22. All fixed penalty offences. All offences amenable to a fixed penalty treatment should be made subject to minimum sentences, if tried in court, both as to points, and to the financial penalty. The minimum penalty should be set at the fixed penalty level.
Learn-2-Live has no objections to these measures.
Paragraph 9.2
Proposal 5 above calls for retesting as an automatic consequence of a substantial period of disqualification in addition to any other penalty. We welcome views as to what the length of this period should be.
Anyone banned from driving for whatever length of time should have to take the extended driving test before regaining their licence.
Paragraph 9.2 (H)
The use of short term disqualification even for periods as short as a fortnight or a month, could give a sharp warning to drivers whose behaviour, if it did not change, would be likely to result in a much more serious penalty including a prolonged disqualification.
Learn-2-Live cannot see the point of what is termed "short term disqualification". We believe it would serve no useful purpose.
Paragraph 10.11
Learn-2-Live cannot accept there are any circumstances that justify exception from being banned from driving when someone causes death or serious injury, for whatever reason. Human rights apply to everybody, including the innocent victims of this crime and their families. Do we put so much value on being "politically correct" and so little value on human life?

 

New Driver Act - 1st June 1997

This legislation allows new drivers only 6 penalty points in their first 2 years after passing, before they are reduced back to L plate status and need to retake all tests. Since the introduction of the Act over 80,000 new drivers have had their licences revoked!  In some areas there have been quite a lot of new drivers, many of whom had no additional training after their test, referred to Driver Improvement courses instead of being taken to court.  They have therefore been getting the accelerated experience they could have received had they taken Pass Plus or motorway lessons. Could it be that this is further evidence of the need for post-test motorway training?
 

"L" drivers Beware

November 2000. Readers should be aware that there are a number of persons in the Blackburn area offering driving lessons for a fee, illegally. That is, they are not approved or licensed by the Driving Standards Agency. They may have insurance which covers learners - it may even appear to cover hire or reward for driving lessons - but in the event of an accident occurring on a lesson, the insurance company, having found out that the instructor is unqualified, will probably refuse to pay out. This will leave the pupil, as the driver and therefore the legally-responsible person, with a possible massive financial headache if there is third party damage or injury as well as penalty points/fines for driving without valid insurance. Pupils should always ask to see an instructor's Approved Driving Instructor licence, which must be displayed in the windscreen of the instructor's car on the nearside. It is either a green licence with an octagonal design for a fully-qualified instructor, or a pink one with a triangular design for an instructor who has passed two parts of the ADI test and is gaining experience, under supervision, before taking the final part of the ADI test.
G.Avison. (Secretary, Blackburn and District Approved Driving Instructors Association).
 

P.A.C.T.S.

September 24th,2000. Over the last 9 years Learn-2-Live has campaigned to have it made compulsory for all newly qualified drivers to have to undergo some form of motorway tuition. Back in March of this year, following a conversation with Robert Gifford, chief executive of the Parliamentary Advisory Council on Transport Safety, this campaign was challenged to prove that new drivers are scared of driving on these roads. Basically I was asked to prove that there was a definite need for this training. Facts and figures, that's what they wanted. Facts and figures!
Well, we gave them the facts and figures and we proved, I believe, beyond all reasonable doubt that there is a great need for this training. I submitted the report to PACTS in the middle of August with the hope that they would discuss it at their September meeting. Since the report was submitted (and I now know it was accepted), I had many telephone conversations with Robert Gifford. We agreed that there was a need for this training but it had to be an ingredient in the recipe for a properly structured course of driver training. I was asked that if they pushed the government to make Pass-Plus compulsory would I be happy with that? As module 6 deals with motorway tuition of some form, I told him I would be agreeable. This meeting took place on 19th September and on 21st I received the following e-mail from PACTS: - "You asked about our meeting on Tuesday. We agreed that it would be a good idea to press the Government to make Pass-Plus (or equivalent) compulsory. We also agreed that an element of Pass-Plus would be motorway (or equivalent high-speed road) training. Best wishes, Rob Gifford."
Learn-2-Live has made a breakthrough in the way new drivers will be trained. PACTS will now push the powers that be to make this scheme compulsory and you can be assured that I will be pushing PACTS until they do!
Many moons ago my former ADI suggested that if I make enough noise, one day the "machine" will listen. Well, I have and finally they are.
 

road safety strategy

March 1st,2000. The DETR published the Governments' new Road Safety Strategy. It's a wide ranging document but the section most applicable to this campaign relates to driver training & testing. We would be most interested to receive visitors views.
 

letter to 'Driving Schools News' & 'Newslink'

January 2000. "I feel I have to write to you to express my complete and utter disgust at the report issued by the House of Commons Select Committee's inquiry report into the Standards and Training of Young and Newly Qualified Drivers. For the last 8 years I have been pressing both this and the previous government to bring about a change in the law, to compel all newly qualified drivers to have to undergo some form of motorway tuition. As a result of my campaigning, in 1997 the GMB trade union gave me their support and in 1998 an Early Day Motion raised by Peter Pike, on my behalf, gained the support of over ¼ of the MPs, including 108 who actually signed this motion. At the beginning of 1999 I was encouraged by the reaction of Mr. Robert Gifford from PACTS. He suggested in a letter to me that, he was certain that I was correct to argue that young and new drivers need to acquire motorway driving experience as soon as possible after passing their test. Also he was convinced that schemes such as pass plus would not succeed until they apply to all young drivers rather than just volunteers. I asked for the chance to put my views to this inquiry and although I heard nothing from them, I was able to put my views to Mrs. Dunwoody, by telephone, fax and e-mail several times and I was encouraged by her response. On June 10th 1999, supported by Peter Pike my MP and by Mr. John Lepine MBE from the Motor Schools Association, I had the chance to put my views to Lord Whitty direct. I came away from that meeting with the opinion that, at last, motorway tuition for new drivers was a definite possibility. However on 11th November 1999 the report was published and I found that everything the views of many people including myself had been completely ignored. One of the conclusions this inquiry came to was that road safety should be included in the National Curriculum. Common sense tells me that if children don't take any notice of the "green cross code" which is one of the fundamental rules of road safety, how are they going to get through to them about having a sensible attitude towards driving? The report also commented that BSM had implied during their evidence to this committee that motorway tuition was unnecessary. Is this really the view of this organisation? How Mrs. Dunwoody and Co. can take such a narrow-minded view of driver training and sit so firmly on the fence, is anybody's guess. Everybody knows that the standard of driving on the motorway is terrible and the reason for this is the fact that the DETR and DSA allows 95% of new drivers to drive on these roads without any sort of training whatsoever. I am of the firm belief that unless the learner and newly qualified drivers are compelled to take driver training seriously the standard of driving on all roads, and especially on the motorway, will continue to deteriorate. There are many like me who feel that this committee inquiry has been a complete and utter waste of time. My only hope is that when the DETR and DSA issue their road safety strategy report, in the near future they will not be so inward looking. People have suggested to me that they thought my campaign is over. Nothing is further from the truth. The fight goes on!!"

A.Ravenhill.
 

standards & training

November 8th,1999. The parliamentary select committee on Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs has just released it's Nineteenth Report into "YOUNG AND NEWLY-QUALIFIED DRIVERS: STANDARDS AND TRAINING".
Supporters of this campaign, and of motorway safety in general, will be disappointed to learn that the committee rejected calls to make any form of post-test training compulsory. They did however recommend that post-test training schemes be more vigorously promoted.
You could be forgiven for thinking that is a somewhat contradictory view...
Read the full publication or just the Report.
 

The Chief Constable

August 23rd,1999. I approached the Chief Constable of Lancashire Constabulary, Mrs.Pauline Clare, asking for an endorsement of my campaign. The Chief Constable told me in her reply that the Driving Standards Agency have been progressing two alternatives. Firstly, to change the driving test to include motorway driving and to change the conditions of the Motorway Regulations to allow learner drivers to enter onto the motorways. Secondly, they have been considering the introduction of a graduated licence scheme whereby the learner driver could be examined on basic driving skills and progress into different modules, i.e. night time driving, dealing with skidding and motorway driving, and they will shortly be issuing their Road Safety Strategy which she has been advised may well include their proposals concerning motorway driving. The issue has also been raised at the Association of Chief Police Officers Traffic Committee of which Mrs.Clare is a member. This committee has always supported the attempts of the Driving Standards Agency to increase both the theoretical knowledge of candidates as well as the actual practical driving experience, and as a consequence any proposal that changes should be made to appropriate legislation which would allow candidates to receive training prior to their test would be supported by the ACPO Traffic Committee. Mrs.Clare suggested that the aims of Learn-2-Live are in line with those of the ACPO Traffic Committee. I would suggest that although we are both travelling in the same direction, Learn-2-Live has always contended that motorway tuition should be done post not pre-test. Unfortunately, it is Constabulary policy not to endorse any particular campaign, however she did wish me well in my endeavours.
 

Lord Whitty Meeting

June 10th,1999. Along with Peter Pike MP and John Lepine of the Motor Schools Association, I met with Lord Whitty, the Minister of Transport, and was able to put my case to him directly. As a result of that meeting the following press release was issued:
"Motorway Tuition, A Definite Possibility"
"Those are the conclusions reached by road safety campaigner Mrs.Anne Ravenhill following her meeting with the Minister of Transport, Lord Whitty, last Thursday, June 10th. At the meeting, which was held at the DETR's office in London were 3 representatives from the DETR's road safety division and 2 from the Driving Standards Agency. Mrs.Ravenhill, who was accompanied at the meeting by Mr.Peter Pike, her MP, and Mr.John Lepine, the General Manager of the Motor Schools Association, told the minister that her campaign had evolved over the last 8 years because of her firm belief that all newly qualified drivers should undergo some form of motorway tuition. In 1997 her campaign received the support of the GMB trade union and last year she raised over 100 MP's signatures, from all sides of the house, on an Early Day Motion and at the beginning of this year she raised the issue with the Parliamentary Advisory Council for Transport Safety. Their Chief Executive, Mr.Robert Gifford, is quoted as saying that Mrs.Ravenhill was correct to argue that young and new drivers need to acquire motorway experience as soon as possible after completing their driving test, "..and PACTS would be looking into this issue".
The meeting with Lord Whitty was aptly timed because the previous day the House of Commons Transport Sub Committee Inquiry into the issue of young and newly qualified drivers commenced. Mrs.Ravenhill told the minister that although, at present, she had not been asked to attend the inquiry, she would be delighted to do so if necessary. During the 40 minute meeting one of the issues discussed was the number of newly qualified drivers who underwent motorway training. Mrs.Ravenhill told the minister of a survey she conducted with the driving instructors, the conclusions of which suggested that no more than 14% of new drivers took motorway tuition. The minister and his colleagues suggested that was a little optimistic and their figures suggested that the number of people taking this training was more like 4-6%. "If your figure is correct minister", said Mrs.Ravenhill, "I believe that it is totally unacceptable to allow 95% of new drivers to drive on motorways without any training and it's no wonder the standard of motorway driving is so bad."
The minister told Mrs.Ravenhill and her colleagues that the view they had expressed would be considered together with the House of Commons inquiry's later this year. The campaign is strongly committed to continue until it is made law for all newly qualified drivers to undergo some form of compulsory motorway training."
 

PACTS Agree

At the beginning of 1999 the aims of the campaign were laid before the Parliamentary Advisory Council for Transport Safety (PACTS) and they have now agreed to look into the issue. Read more.
 

Coroners View

April 1998. Martin Coppel, the Bolton Coroner, called on the Government to consider better training for new drivers; he said "..it would be sensible for them to undergo motorway training." He also went on to say "I like to think the Ministry of Transport would have this under consideration." These comments were made after he had recorded verdicts of accidental death on two people travelling in a car driven by an 18 year old new driver.

Resulting from these comments, the following letter appeared in the "Bolton Evening News".
"Sir: I refer to the coroner's call for motorway training for new drivers. When I passed my driving test in 1981 my instructor offered me a lesson on the M602, then fairly quiet. I took him up on the offer and found it useful. Probably many young drivers today would consider it unnecessary but with the increase in traffic it could be made a compulsory condition after passing the test." Mrs.D.Worsley, Astley Bridge, Bolton.

A few weeks after that letter, the "Bolton Evening News" published this report.
"TOUGHER L-TEST FAILS TO SATISFY CORONER"
"The Government today announced tough new changes to the driving test, just weeks after a Bolton coroner called for better training for motorists. At the April inquest into a horrific motorway smash which killed two children, Martin Coppel highlighted the need for extra training for new young drivers. Today Government ministers will unveil a new, longer and tougher driving test. Candidates will have to show they can handle high-speed driving on dual carriageways. But Mr Coppel said the extra training still did not go far enough. He wants to see compulsory motorway lessons introduced for drivers who have passed their test."
 


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